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Media mogul Tyler Perry told Hot Topics host Heather Catlin, he truly hates playing his signature character Madea. But his hate for the character hasn’t stopped him from playing her for more than 17 years.

“I’m determined not to be her age portraying her,” Perry told Catlin.

The reason he continues to play the Madea character? It’s simple. Other people like her.

“I appreciate what it does for people more than anything. That’s what gets me back in costume.”